Winter Sun
Posted: Friday, 16 November 2007 |
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Great blog, and memories aplenty and not all of them bad. Unfortunately, the times have not changed as much as many would perhaps like, and cold, hunger, poverty and illness remains as a fact of life for too many.
Interested from fromColl
Yes I See!! You had a very harsh childhood HL, did you do any salting of meat or fish yourself? And the Hot Toy this year is a WII ( pronounced wee) and LH asked if she could have a WII, so I said yes just as long as she's not all day in the loo. Tried Ebay, and we were the highest bidder, but some b***er outbid us with 20 seconds to go, can you believe it. Another well written, well thought out blog, if only mine were like that???
Tws from Fully Clothed To Naked
I love your definition of Jul as an act of defiance, HL. It is also a driving out of the actual darkness, as well as the metaphorical. As is Up Helly Aa in Shetland in January. And also a jolly good p*ss-up to boot. Poor old Santa got a chicken sandwich and a glass of milk in my childhood home. Very healthy of course...
Flying Cat from an admiring glance and a furry hug
Tws, me dad was a poacher..do ye not think I didn`t do my share of butchering, etc..? And, I didnae really see it as a hard life..the hardest part of me childhood was being told by my music teacher me singing was so bad, to stand at the back of the class and mime....:-( (I`ve no` improved ower much either..)
Hermit from Sanday
Interested from Coll, I wasnae thinking of recent times...was thinking of pretty distant heathen ancestors..sorry..the reenactor in me, I ken mair aboot pagan viking times than mair recent history. :-) And I agree about there still being poverty and hunger. But in this country it`s rarer than it was, and for those that are affluent, well..most of them are spoiled, simply...imo, of course..;-)
Hermit from Sanday
Hermit from Sanday, I wasnae thinking of recent times, either when I made my earlier comment. Oh and I've moved the car, just in case.
Tws from Further Back
Did you stand and watch this evening (Friday ) Hermit? Iron grey cloud, blued steel sky behind and red gold above the last of the sun, glorious. I do think the Vikings got the timing right though I never notice the lengthening days before Up Helly A.
Hyper-Borean from A wee bit sooth
Hermit from Sanday- no disrespect hermit, but I beg to differ, I fear you see modern living and lifestyles through rose coloured specs, poverty and hardship co exists and even more so on the islands.
friends of interested from inotherlocations
Hermit, that was an evocative blog - thankyou ...! You're right, things are very different now ... But for those who watch the seasons as they turn, we can keep alive in our heads these actions of our forebears, and I for one like to experience a *little* of what they experienced, just to keep myself grounded ... There's nothing wrong with heathens ... But Pagans are better ...!
soaplady from cozey warm nook
Mybest every Christmas present was a jigsaw puzzle ... pink roses around a doorway ... it took ages for me to puzzle out what the bits of cardboard were for! Now my biggest puzzle is what to give to teenage grandchildren ... not electronic stuff!! For Christmas dinner we invariably had a lamb [southern hemisphere remember] that had been killed especially for the occasion ... maybe that covered a blood gift to the gods?
Plaid from getting ready for the countdown
Hi friends of interested (could you not have gotten a shorter name btw?) but maybe we`ll just agree to differ, yes? For how many weans are dying of starvation on the islands nowadays? I never said it didn`t exist, only not like in days gone by and that cannae be denied. I see no islander where, with a bad harvest, they ken their kith and kin will starve to death. Might be hard, nae denying..but nothing like it used to be.. perspective, aye? Because for all the poverty and hardship here, there is a welfare state that ultimately catches folks who fall.
Hermit from Sanday
Re-enactments? I have not been to one yet, but I would like to see a good sized version of the Battle of New Orleans. In the meantime, I'll just have to play Lonnie Donegan's hymn over and over again (both CD and youtube). Those were the glory days, my friends... (eh?)
mjc from NM,USA
Meanwhile I'll play 1812 ( Right year different campaign!)
Hyper-Borean from Northof 49
Good to read that Hermit remembers how Jul was celebrated in titmes gone by. And every ninth year at Uppsala there was a real blood-letting; horses, dogs, Christiana priests, slaves from Sm氓land: maybe even cats (sorry to offend your sensibilities, FC!). regarding hardships, with global warming coming on apace, when the pandemics have died down and the sea leveel has risen adn globalisation has stopped dead as a dog in its tracks ... maybe we will be back pickling and salting and turning the sod with a spade. In some ways, would that be so bad?
Barney from Swithiod of pagen past
Would it be so bad Barney? Yes, it REALLY would be bad! I work very hard for what I have, and that includes a nice, safe warm home with the one I love. My hard work won't leave me crippled when I'm old, and I would never "choose" work that will. Like Hermit said, the problem is we've come too far, most people know the COST of everything, and the VALUE of nothing. We're thralls to our "stuff", and fail to notice just how AMAZINGLY good we actually have it. I know more people who are unhappy because of what they DON'T have than those who realise the absolutely amazing things that they actually do have. One friend is ANNOYED because her computer is 4 years old, but doesn't see how AMAZING and precious the ability for near instantaneous communication to almost any where on the globe, and doesn鈥檛 see the fact that her daughters throat infection was cleared up by an antibiotic in DAYS, her daughter is still alive, and can still speak. My friends view of things? She complains about the price of the medication. Please, by all the powers that be, do not bring back the bad old days, but please, can people not just appreciate what they have? Good blog Hermit :)
Salty from Dublin
Have to agree (great blog hermit) The "good old days" were bad, cold, underpaid, and over exploited :) But yes we've have lost our values - we complain constantly about the things we don't have. Like Hermit says it might do some poeple a bit of good to realize how much they take for granted And how fragile, how precious some things are,and those are the things they can't buy.
GerCelt from Dublin, Ireland
Hear hear Salty! 'You don't know what you've got til it's gone'. We would miss:- instant light; constant warmth; all year round availability of foodstuffs; subsidised transport; medical treatment free at point of use; democracy however flawed. And so much more. Like sitting here doing this...
Flying Cat from climbing a carbon nano-tube to heaven
I agree with Salty. I was asked what I wanted for Xmas, and when I replied " Nothing that money can buy" I was poo-pooed, by Herself ( very materialistic) but really, I don't need anything, that money can buy, a new left leg, back, brain, yes, but even ebay doesn't do all that. I have everything that I need to survive, and that's all I want, to survive...
Tws from A Womans Tale
I remember growing up poor: it could have been worse, and it would not have taken a lot for it to be much better! # We should be grateful for life itself, for the life, health and emotional well being of those we hold dear, for the fact that the necessities of life won't go missing. Consumerism, if defined as giving in to the yearning for the latest (the WII, the Apple Iphone, extra large flat screen tv, etc) or the most extravagant (the latest high end BMW, Porsche etc) so that one keeps up with one's "peers", is a disease easily avoided. I rarely turn on my 15+ year old tv with the plugged rabbit ears (except to watch the news), I don't go cruising the malls. I enjoy traveling and good food, but don't make a fetish of either (I can take it or leave it). A pre-requisite for avoiding consumerism (being a consumerist or yearning to have the means to be one) is a strong ego, the ability to be different, and success is achieved when people start labeling you as an eccentric. Our kids, when growing up reluctantly gave up telling us what their friends and their friends' parents were doing/buying: they would start raving, stop, look at us, roll their eyes and would say "right, we are different." The good life is to know what a sufficiency is, to achieve it, and not to yearn uncontrollably. Now, of course, the question is: when will I know I have a sufficiency of books and CDs?! Also, it crosses my mind that psychologially it might also be easier not to be a consumerist (in attititude or practice) if you have the financial means to be one.
mjc from NM,USA
I think poaching (in the UK) should be deemed a protected profession (Down with the Aristos, Absentee Landowners and all that). Was your father a versatile poacher, Hermit? I assume he'd poach fish and rabbits: or did he get the landlord's grouse and deer as well? Some folks make heroes out of cowboys (cf. Willie Nelson and the C&W movies): I am more partial to poachers. I certainly poached mangoes, lychees and guavas - not many loose rabbits or reserved streams on the island - when I was growing up. Oh, for a trout, nicely poached.
mjc from NM,USA
O Canada, eh Hyper-B. That was the wrong war, bungled (yes, yes, we have not learnt much). # I hear our Canadian neighbors are all aglow that the Loonie is worth more than the Bernancke (the dollar, as it is derisively called in some circles): they are streaming down the border to shop, when they are not busy ordering from Amazon.com and such.
mjc from NM,USA
Eh, well, that set off some sparks. Of course we all like what we've got, warm and cosy. Especially FC. But that is going to change! And most people won't even have a roof over their head... ach, I'm ranting on. If bad times are acomin', do we go on fiddling or do we try to prepare for them? Islanders may have a better chance because you're not so terribly far away from a time when you had to be self-sufficient. My best bet for survivors of a global melt-down would be - wait for it - Afgan tribesmen and African bushmen. Do more with less! Sorry about the doomsday look: it doesn't really fit in the jovial/ribald/tetchy atmosphere of IB.
Barney from Swithiod of comsumate consumerism
Barney, look at the bright side of things. Doomsday voyeurism is not good for the soul. Have another steak and kidney pud, mate.
mjc from NM,USA
I liked Barney`s comment..especially the rememberance of the sacrificing of christian priests, me being a good heathen girl n all, hee hee...
Hermit from Sanday
Could we throw in a few nuns just to complete the bonfire of the vanities...
Flying Cat from bad habits
Orkney, or is it Pomona, is clearly a dangerous place for Papists. Why don't you folks do what Shetland does, and burn boats in those slow times of winter? # I wish Tom Wolfe would hurry up and publish another one. He takes about ten years to produce a novel (invariably a master piece). He's getting long in the teeth, and I may have to get mine filed down soon. Yes, yes, after you Hyper-B ...
mjc from NM,USA
We're very fond of the quiet, thoughtful, deep sort, mjc...
Flying Cat from trumpet on mute
Just finished reading 2 book's about sanday by the lady who live's on the Island which are tempting my and making me look @ the Island life that you have up in the Northern Isalnds in a green eyed way. I got the 2 books off, of my brother who live's and work's on Flotta.I'm going to try and get up to the Island's next june and I will try to get over from the mainland and visit your very well discribed Island of Sanday...have a very very good yule time ;;;;Rob
Robert from Kirkby in Ashfield (Notts)