Is the tram system a waste of money?
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Trams are an
excellent idea. It is disappointing routes have not been earmarked
to cover round the Nottingham ring road.
Trams can run
when buses are thwarted by certain weather conditions and their
main benefit, no pollution.
The only worry
is if the Tories get in again and they try to scupper them. Every
time they try to govern, public transport suffers in the long term.
Graham Shepherd
Nottingham
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I think the
ratepayer could probably get considerably more mass transportation
facilites for the money (and with less disruption) by making dramatic
improvements to bus services, including far more (and better enforced)
bus lanes, cleaner, quieter, more comfortable buses, more regular
services, properly paid drivers etc.
And they would
be of use to the majority, not just those who live in a narrow northern
corridor. The main reason I can see for going for trams is the feeling
that they can be marketed as trendy and new, and thus attract out
of their cars some who would not be seen dead on a bus.
I think tram
schemes find it easier to attract funding. Buses are seen as old
hat by central government and were deregulated, and it seems too
much of U-turn to allow much subsidy again. Instead tram schemes
attract huge grants, because they're seen as new and trendy.
People imagine
that having a tram will make Nottingham as clean and attractive
and cultural and trendy as Stuttgart or Florence or Berlin (or Sheffield!).
Rob Edlin-White
Carlton, Nottingham
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I think
it's a terrible idea and waste of money. Spend it on a dome in notttingham,
the nottingham Dome.
Mavis
Bulwell
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Giant Spuds.
Dingbat. Petunia. Trams are great. So long as they're green, that's
my favourite flavour.
Mr. T
Nottingham
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It's gonna be
fantsastic...shut up your moaning everyone.. haven't you got anything
constructive to say?
Doreen
Hucknall
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Love your trams.
In years to come you will be as gratefull as the people of Melborne
for their brilliant ,co ordiated tram amd train system, One ticket
for all services stretching 48 km east 50 km north 40 km west and
126 km south of the city So who needs a car? If you do use one its
easy because nearly evey one else use the trams and trains.Why wouldnt
they?Its less than one eighth the cost of the car. Adelaide uses
buses they are cramped slow and impede traffic flow .They also produce
air pollution at a rate wich gives that city and asthma and respiratory
illness rate 5 times that of melbourne which has 4 times the population.
Be thankfull you live in a city that has the foresight to realise
the enormous social and financial and environmental benefits of
electric tramway and railway operation. Good fortune to you all
g.harrop Australia
G, Harrop
Australia
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I work in Sheffield.
The best thing about the place is the tram system. It's clean, cheap,
reliable and quick. The sooner the Nottingham system is finished
the better.
Gary
Worksop
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I am a language
student who has spent two years living in the Lenton area of Nottingham,
and has now moved out to Germany to continue my course. Here in
Germany I take the tram every single day, at least twice if not
more. Not once has there been a hold up of any sort, no blockages,
no breakdowns. The trams run day and night, they are an efficient
way of moving large numbers of people about the city, and every
day as we speed past large traffic jams, i think back to wasting
time sitting on the buses in Nottingham during the rushhour chaos.
The cost is reasonable because it is a good service that people
value and consider worthwhile. I wholeheartedly support Trams in
Nottingham and look forward to using them.
Polly Garnett
Jena. Germany
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Lets be positive,the
new tram system is an investment for the future.Its going to be
many years before everyone reaps the benefits But lets face it the
current problems we face in this country cry out for an imaginative
plan.I certainly would not have voted for the first line to come
from Hucknall,I think Clifton would have been a more suitable proposition,but
I look forward to future links. Public transport has got to improve,at
present it is totally inadequate.I live three miles from work,two
bus rides,I either cycle(not in this weather)or I use my car.
Chris Thompson
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I'm at Nottingham
Girls High School and I'm doing a piece of A level coursework on
the costs and benefits of Nottingham's tram. I'm trying to balance
them up to see whether the decision to go ahead with it was worth
it or not... but one thing that's struck me reading the comments
on this page is that the majority of the negative views centre on
the money side of things, whereas the positive views are looking
mostly just at the environment. Has nobody taken all sides of the
argument into consideration? I also wonder if people think the council
took enough notice of the citizens when making the decision. i would
greatly appreciate any views or comments people have.... cheers
Anon.
Long Eaton
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As a fan of
the old Great Central Railway, I await the introduction of trams
to Nottingham with great enthusiasm.Sydney withdrew its trams,which
proved to be a shortsighted decision.A new tramway system is currently
being developed.I urge everyone to support your new nottingham tramway
asit is the way of the future.
Warwick Tafe
Sydney Australia
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Is this a step
backwards the trolley busses were great none polluting wont the
trams disrupt normal traffic road space is so limmited
Mel Drage
Squamish,b.c.canada
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All this money
could be spent on making buses free, which would certainly encourage
people out of their cars. NCT buses also cover the whole city area,
so this would maximise potential benefits rather than limiting any
potential improvements to the Hyson Green corridor.
Mike
Nottingham
in reply...
NCT already
serve the whole of the City - that's why they are called Nottingham
City Transport. To make buses free would encourage people out of
their cars, but how can any business, which is what many people
forget to accept NCT as, survive if there was no income?
Anthony
Bestwood Park, Nottingham
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The tram is
going to change Nottingham for the better but people have got to
give it time. The council can't open all the planned routes at once
as it will cuase traffic chaos and we can't upset the car drivers
can we?
People are already complaining about the money it's costing to build
route one but once this has been built, money made from it can go
towards routes 2-4 and the network will grow.
Similar money spent on the railway or road network wouldn't solve
the problems as much as the tram will.
I personally can't wait for the day that traffic is banned from
the city centre completely!
Ian T
Long Eaton
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After reading
through the comments, it seems apparant that most people moaning
about the tram are coming up with the same uninformed comments.
Firstly, although the tram does duplicate the areas served by the
Robin Hood Line, the train doesn't stop between Bulwell or Nottingham
or between Bulwell and Hucknall, as the tram will do.
Secondly, although Nottingham City Transport provides excellent
services along this corridor, once the tram is running, it has already
been announced that services would be revised and feeder buses introduced.
Anthony
Bestwood Park, Nottingham
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I generally
support the tram, I think it will help regenerate the northern part
of the city, as it has done in Manchester and reduce dirt in the
centre produced by diesel buses, but it is expensive. Although most
of the money I think is coming from central goverment and not the
council tax Marc P suggested. The line one proposal to create a
south Notts transite system are cheap by comparison as it uses mostly
existing railway track. What a shame the council has allow the distruction
of the old railways into the centre of the city such as the old
LNER line. You could of caught a train near Keyworth stoping at
Edwalton, West Bridgford, Nottingham station, then going underground
with stops at the lace market, the Victoria Centre then up under
Mansfield road to Sherwood and further.
William Davison
Nottingham
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Manchester
has had it's Metrolink Tram System now for seven years. It carries
15 MILLION passengers per year. It has been so successful in taking
thousands of car journeys off the packed roads to the city centre.
Here it connects the two main train stations and all of the exhibition
centres. It's been so successful that five new lines, ading to a total
of 45 miles will be added. Just think, this might be Nottingham in
seven years time. The old Salford Quays (Dock Area) has had regeneration,
new jobs, house prices have gone up as more people want to live near
the line. Surely Nottingham's Public want this? Metrolink was expensive
to convert and build on the road, but it has been worth it. Manchester
also has an integrated ticketing system called "System 1" where a
bus ticket can be bought and used on all local buses, trains and trams.
Trams are proven to reduce congestion. The Bury-Altrincham line uses
old railway tracks and travels at over 50 mph. Perhaps the infamous
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Anon. |
The tram system
does not duplicate the Robin Hood line. You try getting a train
from the Market Square to Hyson Green, or to Cinderhill. If more
people can leave their cars in various Park&Rides outside the city
centre, more's the better. We'll also gain more green space on the
Forest with the reduction of the current Park&Ride. People are worried
about getting from Hyson Green and Forest Fields to the proposed
Water Park on the Forest after the outdated Victorian baths are
closed. How about getting the tram? Its a great project for the
city and the sooner plans are made for city-wide extensions and
a fully integrated transport hub, the better.
Andrew Marshal
Nottingham
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Money for the
tram would be better spent improving existing public transport e.g.
giving the Robin Hood line two train lines through Hucknall and
Newstead.
Sandra
Hucknall, Nottinghamshire
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When are we
going to get the tram system extended to West Bridgford and the
areas over the river. The terrain is fairly level there, and it
could extend out to the Park and Ride, allowing a realistic alternative
to clogging the city centre with cars, for those who commute in
from the outlying villages. Dunkirk, Beeston, Attenborough, and
Long Eaton is another obvious route. Another thought, what effect
would proximity to the tram route have on house prices in those
area's ?
Mike
West Bridgford, Nottingham
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Millions of
pounds? It's more like hundreds of millions of pounds and who will
benefit -- the contractors and builders and some obscure French
company who have a large slice of the action. Trams will probably
be out of fashion by the time it opens, anyway.
Eric
Woodborough,
Nottingham
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Instead of spending
huge amounts of money on a new tram system that will serve already
established routes, the public transport system should be free or
much cheaper, especially services from outside Nottingham. The Robin
Hood Line is becoming much more reliable and is reasonably priced
- more money should be put in to maintaining a good service, putting
on extra carriages and extending the timetable.
Helen
Mansfield, Notts.
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What a waste
of money. It's hard enough to get people to come and spend their
money in Hyson Green anyway but you can forget it now. Why not spend
the vast amount of cash on improving the area, instead of causing
all that disruption for a service to take people out of the area
and into the city.
Sara
Hyson Green, Nottingham
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I think the
tram is a complete waste of money! If you look at places like Sheffield
which has got a tram system, it has taken people OUT of the city
and not into it. Also, why have a route that duplicates the Robin
Hood Line?
Tom
City
Centre , Nottingham
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It seems to
me that any scheme that's ultimate aim is to reduce congestion,
pollution and when established speed up peoples journeys should
be given a chance. Anyone who has to travel into the centre of Nottingham
knows that the current system of Bus and car lanes is approaching
gridlock.
Peter
Notts
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