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On the 91热爆 News "Raids carry a clear warning" Well done Nottingham
Councils. Its about time that steps was taken to get rid of the rubbish
tips which most of us would like to call a garden. I hope you continue
and are successful with this kind of raid. Early calls for the thief's,
smugglers and benefit cheats what more could they ask for? I accept
that if you are caught up in one of these pushes to get rid of this
kind of behaviour if can be vexing but the benefits are far greater
than some inconvenience. Perhaps Gedling Borough Council would like
to try it? Perhaps we could also get rid of the cars parked on pavements,
which make it impossible for mothers with pushchairs to get by with
out putting their life and the life of their child's life in danger
by having to walk on the road/street.
John Foster
Arnold Nottingham |
Fireworks
Well it is that time of the year again - fireworks. I always used
to think that people who wanted the sale of fireworks banned to be
just barking up the wrong tree. However, my experience over the past
couple of weeks has made me feel that the sale of fireworks should
definitely be banned and that the only displays should be the organised
displays. The reason I think this is that over the past week or so
we have been having 'Firework Wars' all over the Whitemoor Estate,
where gangs of youths fire rockets at each other, or chase each other
round in cars firing rockets from one car to another. It is a terrible
experience as they have no regard for safety, the worst was last Thursday
when children got caught up, the sound of them crying was painful
(a rocket nearly ended up in the face of a 6 year old girl), and the
rockets hit cars and houses. (My car was hit and the ash melted the
windscreen) As you could tell it is very , very dangerous and I really
think the sale of fireworks should be banned. Incidentally I did call
the Police on a 999 and guess what! They didn't come...
Basford Resident
Basford |
I
am glad to see fibromyalgia mentioned on yuor site, as I am a sufferer
and it is not well known. However, it is misleading to say that it
is rare - it is not, it is just not well known or goes undiagnosed
or misdiagnosed. another myth is that it is a 'disease'. It is not
- it is a syndrome.
Siobh谩n Ryle
|
Should
Mansfield bitter be brewed out of town?
It's just a shame that Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries have such
a stronghold on the brewing industry now :( The lost of Mansfield
is bad, but to W&DB. It's pathetic!!!
Mary Jones
Mansfield |
We live in one of the most attractive cities in th UK. However we
have a problem developing. Law and order in the city is becomming
a real concern, the situation in the Meadows has reached crisis levels.
The apparant disregard for commuters who have to make a living in
the City has been all to apparant. The city council are in serious
danger of loosing public support. They seem cpmpletly ineffective
in most areas, they seem far to politically correct than being concerned
withh the welfare of Nottingham as a city. New powers are also needed
for th epoliceforce to move proffesional beggars, and druggies from
our attractive city centre. The constant on the spot questionaires
by various charities, is having the opposite effect on what it's trying
to get. That is money, I for one will not part with a penny of cash
until they produce evidence that the money donated goes to the right
places. CITY COU! NC! IL GET A GRIP
MARTIN
BINGHAM |
Parking
Meters
Can anybody tell me where I can get some of these parking meters?
I would love to plaster them down all the roads in Loughborough -
I could live happily on the takings for the rest of my life! Why should
Nottingham Council have the monopoly on extortion?
withheld
Loughborough |
|
The trams
beggars and rubbish on Nottingham streets
In response to the many anti trams postings to this debate area.
Having just
return from holiday in Switzerland I am amazed at differences between
the two countries.
If we look at
travel, tickets are available which take from any airport to your
destination and this ticket covers you for travel on any means of
transport, bus's, train, boats and cable cars. Also for the rest
of your holiday the ticket will get you half price travel on any
form of transport (except aircraft) anywhere in Switzerland. All
the transport is very clean and on time. Most transport is electrically
driven and quiet, which also means no exhaust gases, and smell or
noise.
The cites towns
and villages are not covered in litter, and they do seem to make
a concerted effort to recycle as much of their rubbish as possible.
There are many
litterbins all are emptied regularly.
There are no
beggars demanding money.
Just why is
it that the majority of the public in England and Nottingham in
particular, like the rubbish in our streets, the noise and polluted
air of our city and local towns and the aggressive beggars.
Don't say you
do not enjoy it. Other wise you would not scatter your unwanted
rubbish in the streets, you would not drive you car into the city
and you would complain about the beggars.
For my part
I look forward to the electric trams in our streets which means
a quieter and less polluted air, I hope one day that heavy instant
fines will be imposed on any one who drops litter/rubbish and also
that the beggars will be removed from our streets.
It would be
a little like Switzerland then, albeit a lot flatter.
John Foster
Arnold Nottingham
and in reply...
The
gauntlet
It is not very often i come in to town, but when i do, i would like
to do it,without haveing to run the gauntlet of the clipboard brigade.ie
Shelter,Oxfam,St.Barnardos and who ever else. I had walked out of
the broardmarsh centre hopeing to do some window shopping. But every
few yards i was hit with "can you spare few minutes" one after another,
this is in between the ,can you spare 20p or 50p from the beggers
littering the walkway. then the big issue sellers, this is in a stretch
of 2 to 3 hundred yards. I thought the council were going to do something
about this! it seems not!. Well COUNCIL get off your back sides and
do something, because this is one shopper of many who will not be
coming back!.
Steve Hobbs
Nottingham |
Global
Warming
Global warming isn't entirely our fault. There is proof that the earth
has its own cycle of cooling, and warming. It even has ways of cooling
itself when it gets to hot. Scientific studies show that when the
tepmerature gets too hot over the ocean, high clouds go away. Allowing
the heat to escape. If it is true, it will lower the heat forcasts
from global warming by 2/3 of what it is now. That should buy us time
to figure out how to lower the Co2 that we have contriuted to the
global warming.
Big Zman
Groton, Connecticut, USA |
|
NOTTINGHAM
CENTRE
I do like living in Nottingham, but the City Centre is FULL of drug
addicts trying to scrounge cash- which is a major problem and needs
sorting out as it is putting people off venturing into Town.
P.S.- The girlies
in Bingham are violent.
CZAR
SHERWOOD
|
The
tram system will be good once it arrives. There will be disrution
in the mean time. However, the safety of children is being compromised.
My son and his friends travel to and from Djanogly CTC by bus. By
the time the buses arrived at the Djanogly stop this evening they
were full, and were not letting any one on. The number of buses on
the route was also reduced to 1, therefore there was no bus available
to bring my son and his friends home. My son walked home and arrived
home at 5.45 because the original bus was full and no subsequent buses
arrived. This may be a one off teething problem, however, I find it
unacceptable that on the day when maximum diruption is likely the
NCT offices closed at the normal time. I saw a NCT representative
on the News recently who had a condescending attitude towrads the
paying public when it came to the timtable changes. This just seems
to be another example of their arrogance.
Mark Mills
Nottingham |
Skate parks
where and how many in England?
Tom
Mancheaster England |
unknown
relative
I have a brother who has lived in nottingham for about 20yrs. He has
done very well for himself, over the years he has, had a unifersity
education, married into a lower middle class family,and secured a
well paid job in the city. In any sence he has been sucessful. Unlike
me I suppose,who is now unemployed,but in my own way I've had succsess.
I have had to climb many obstecles and I'm still here. In the past
my brother and I,where caught up in a family feud. All family members
took sides. Then some time later the family went their own way. Since
then my brother has got married, and has a little girl,called becky.
I have never seen her, Only by looking at a potograph. She is a very
pretty little girl. Who is six years old next January 13. I would
like to send her all my best wishes. And tell her to whatch the post
on her birthday. I am writing this messege in hopes that my niece
may see it, or my brother does. He had said , he will teach becky
to use a computer. My brother's main objection to me is that I'm working
class. And would be an embarrisment to him. I would be grateful if
you would print this message, And not just ignore it. I'm hoping my
brother sees it.
James McCambridge
Gloucestershire |
ENT
Oppersition to (Cw Route) NET
wrote on 14 August, to express opposition to the NET proposal for
a tram route (CW) that would run from the City Centre to Clifton via
Wilford following the line of the old Great Central Railway embankment.
Since then my letter has prompted a number of responses - both for
and against - and I have watched the subsequent correspondence in
the letters page with interest. I have to say, my view remains unchanged,
but in no small part this is because I have noticed that a number
of the writers are not altogether clear about all the facts. In fairness
I have to acknowledge - on some points neither am I, and that is because
NET have provided so little genuinely useful factual information.
However, I and my Action Group colleagues have been able to establish
some information and none of it demonstrates a convincing case in
favour of route CW. So I think the time is ripe !
fo!
r me to respond on a few of the points that have been made. Local
residents in Wilford & Compton Acres have created a strong and
active Committee, which meets regularly. We recognise route CW is
still at the stage of a proposal, and have written to NET and to others
to obtain additional information. But my concerns remain strong -
and are increasing. This is because the responses that local residents
are receiving from NET simply try to defend and justify their proposals
and offer reassurances that if tram route CW goes ahead, it will have
only minor impact upon the local environment and those neighbourhoods
through which it passes. Not only are they unconvincing, the comments
of NET appear inconsistent, unreliable and bound up in "spin"
- they don't provide solid information or positive answers to the
very serious concerns of local residents. Many people feel they are
not receiving answers that would give them confidence their views
are being given fair consideration. Inste!
ad!
they feel that NET are simply trying to `fob them off' and keep them
quiet, until irreversible decisions have been taken by the relevant
Councils. On 11 September a very well attended Public Meeting was
held at the Becket School. This was intended as a key opportunity
to hear both sides of the issue and to address concerns directly to
those who are responsible for tramline planning and construction in
Nottingham. In addition to those in the hall, where it was "standing
room only," people also listened from the adjoining corridors.
NET staff were on hand to field questions and answers. However, after
over 1½ hours of discussion the local residents (an estimated
total of around 450) felt that they had still not heard a convincing
argument to justify consideration of route CW in preference to other
options, and they voted to register their continued fierce opposition
to the NET proposals. Some people have said that we are using the
Environment issues as an excuse to persuade N!
ot!
tingham Express Transit to move the route somewhere else. Yes, we
would like the NET to choose a different route than the CW route.
We have a number of reasons for holding this view and the Environment
is just one of them. It is however, the most important reason. The
fact of the matter is that if NET selects the CW tram route, the potential
impact upon the local environment could be devastating. Over the thirty-five
years since the Great Central Railway line was closed this area has
flourished as a haven for a wide variety of birds and insects, foxes,
hedgehogs, rare plants and other threatened wildlife; leading to it's
official designation as a "Site of Importance for Nature Conservation"
(SINC). This means that the species of flora and fauna found there
are significantly rare, and are of County Importance to Nottinghamshire.
It is an established nature trail much used by locals for recreation,
and has become an important amenity to the area. To the north, where
it meets t!
he!
Trent there is Ironmonger Pond which is surrounded by woodland and
heathland, home to an even wider range of wildlife (also carrying
SINC status), and the southern end leads to Wilwell Cutting Nature
Reserve, which is a Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) and
of National conservation importance. The nature reserve is currently
managed by Nottinghamshire Wildlife Trust. An even more important
aspect of the old railway line is its importance as a safe route for
wildlife that connects natural habitats and helps prevent them becoming
isolated islands and going into decline. We have asked NET about the
environmental implications of the CW route proposal and I can only
say their response amounts to, "don't worry", it will all
be all right in the end". Frankly, this is simply not good enough.
If they haven't thought things through properly by now then it would
be dangerous to accept such wishy-washy reassurances. And if they
have thought things through by now and they are n!
ot!
telling us everything, then that is even more of a concern. It comes
down to this; the Officials at NET HQ need to provide straight answers
on the environmental issues, and will have to get things right. That
doesn't seem like an unreasonable request. Some correspondents have
expressed the view that the Environment can be protected, or it will
recover following tram route works. That is the sort of short-sighted
view that has already done so much damage to all aspects of the local
and the global environment. We have to start caring somewhere. It
seems to be a wicked irony that the same people who say, "don't
worry, the environment will recover" are often also the ones
who say that we need a tram system because it would be more environmentally
friendly. I must say, in the absence of some realistic evidence on
that point, I have my doubts. And years of bitter experience should,
by now, have taught us that the environment cannot always be relied
upon to simply recover. It just!
d!
oesn't. Here is a quick summary of the key reasons why we do not want
the CW Clifton via Wilford route to go ahead It doesn't make good
Environmental sense 1. Removal and destruction of the nature trail
on the old railway embankment with its mature trees, shrubs and wildlife.
2. The route of the old railway from the Trent through to Wilwell
Nature Reserve is a Site Important for Nature Conservation (SINC).
3. Wilwell Nature Reserve is a SSSI. After crossing the ring road,
the proposed route would turn sharp right, directly behind Silverdale
to go to Clifton. This would take it right past the Nature Reserve
with all the disturbance and upset to wildlife that construction,
and then trams passing by up to 10 times an hour in each direction,
would create. 4. Land allocated to both SINCs and SSSIs in Rushcliffe
is only just over half the national average ( 7%) for SSSIs alone
! This will be further reduced if the NET plan goes ahead. 5. Permanent
loss of footpaths and play areas.!
6!
. Loss of local walks. 7. Installation of electrical sub-stations
along the route. 8. Installation of tubular masts to accommodate 750
volt over-head power cables 19 feet above the ground. 9. The visual
eyesore that can be the only result. It doesn't make good Economic
sense 10. NET can provide no clear business justification to support
"hoped for" passenger volumes. 11. NET's Network Extensions
Study report indicates that both the CW and the CQD routes should
perform similarly in terms of attracting customers so there is no
particular benefit from choosing the CW route. It doesn't make good
sense for Effectiveness and suitability 12. The CW route is less valid
in serving public transport benefits because there are fewer planned
stopping points available along the route. 13. There are few significant
workplaces along the CW route. This contrasts with numerous existing
and proposed commercial developments along the alternative proposed
route to Clifton via Queens Drive (Route!
!
CQD). 14. Other route CQD options do more to serve transport to work
and shopping needs. 15. Perhaps most importantly, the CW route is
less effective than the CQD route in meeting the key criteria set
out in the NET Transit Extension Study Final Report (dated January
2001), against which a proposed NET network extension must be tested.
Some people who are concerned about the environment ask why there
are so many car users. In short, I don't know. I haven't asked everyone
and so I can't speak for everyone. However, one answer would be that
people have transport needs and the present public transport systems
simply do not meet those needs. It seems Bus routes are constantly
being changed and withdrawn, and it is becoming increasingly difficult
to use public transport to get across the city centre. (Actually that
is apparently part of a little publicised idea by NET and the Council
to have the city centre become a "no-go-zone" for all vehicles
other than trams). I can't help bu!
t !
think that the desecration of Bus Routes and Timetables is just part
of the ploy to get us to accept the Tram. Indeed, what NET describes
as an integrated bus and tram system, the NET Full Business Case document
describes as, "The integration of bus services will produce a
significant reduction in the number of buses running on parallel radial
routes." I wonder how many tram enthusiasts realise they are
also promoting a policy of "significant reduction in the number
of buses"? I would like to say that I personally do not totally
oppose the tram. Also, the objections to route CW are not about opposing
the idea of trams, nor are they about opposing a tram route to Clifton.
There is an alternative route to serve Clifton other than route CW.
We just believe any tram route should be placed in an area where it
can best serve all the needs of community transport without unnecessarily
damaging the environment. I want a tram to get me from home to work
and not just down the road to m!
y !
neighbours. It seems difficult to understand why anyone would not
think that the CQD route would be a better and all round more useful
and effective choice than using the Toll Bridge, and destroying a
Thriving Nature Conservation Area for no useful purpose. I am not
seeking to "impede the planners". I am seeking to ensure
sensible and effective decisions are taken. Based on all sorts of
past experience, we cannot assume that the planners have "got
it right". Nor can we assume they are not capable of making a
mistake if we do not tell them. Bear in mind Tram systems are inflexible
-- rails cannot be moved easily if they are not done right first time.
And we only need to look at how often bus routes have been deleted
or changed in the last few years to realise how little the public
transport planners can really know about where people want to travel.
The claim made by some writers that "the thing has to go somewhere"
is fundamentally incorrect. There are other alternatives and!
t!
herefore reasons to think that a tram might not be the only answer.
However, all we are actually asking is that the NET and the City council
listen to our views and do not simply ignore the points we are making.
I trust no one thinks that is an unreasonable request. And I also
trust no one thinks it is unreasonable for us to want NET to get it
right and Get It Right First Time. Our Web site is www.communities.msn.co.uk/StoptheTram
(Worth a Visit) Regards John B Fisher
John B Fisher
Wilford Nottingham |
traffic
queues
The A610 / M1 "improvement" is a fiasco. There is no need for the
traffic lights out of peak periods. The highways designers seem to
think Sunday a.m. is a peak period.(the scheme also took about 6 months
longer to carry out than it should have due to Council contractors
being used instead of efficient ones). Incidentally I had the misfortune
to need to use public transport this morning. 90p one way into City,
no change given, unhealthiest sounding bunch of passengers all wheezing
sneezing and coughing (despite not being able to have a fag), boneshaking
ride and uncomfortable seat. I think I'll stick to the car in future.
The Stags won last night tho' so at least I'm smiling today.
bert fegg
notts |
I hope the Traffic Planners make a better job of this scheme, compared
to the last two they have tried. Basford crossroads: You can get a
mile of queueing traffic on a Sunday morning now they have made their
'improvements'. A610/Jn 26M1: Traffic now queues back up to Ikea due
to the installation of traffic lights.
T.Foster
Nottingham |
trams
I wasted years sat in a car trying to get in and out of Nottingham
to work, as the traffic got steadily worse. My solution? I bought
a scooter. No more wasted time. Don't sit there waiting for the public
transport to improve, work it out for yourself!
Paul
Nottingham |
trams
Well I am for the Tram system. However I am very angry at the council
for not providing additional services for commuters who need to get
around Nottingham in order to make a living. I am dismayed at Trent
buses for not supplying extra buses. Excuse too much money to run!
whilst of course i have to wait yet anothet 30 mins for a bus which
has space for me to stand in! I often get refused entry to buses due
to over crowding. Given the extensive research that Nottingham City
council has paid for at the expense of the local taxpayers, are they
saying that they honesly did not expect this kind of chaos. To be
honest this just send home one message to me. That they simply do
not give a toss about people who have to work 8 hours a day, then
struggle to get home 6 miles away, a journey which takes 2 hours,
then feed the kids, clean up etc, come 10 oclock at night i can finally
get some sicial time! Although i told myself that i would never own
a car again after what this goverment did to motorists i feel i have
lost this mini war with the so called politicians. I will simply have
to but one! thus adding to the pollution. Pathetic!
martin
nottm |
drug
problem
The recent events in America show what happens if you allow too much
liberty / freedom. It is time for this Country to stamp on inappropriate
behaviour - e.g. drug taking / pushing, burglary & theft. The Courts
have a hand to play here but so many times you see offenders receiving
nothing more than a ticking off from the Court due to a tongue in
cheek appeal by their "legal aid" solicitor. We're told by civil liberties
quangos that jail is not the answer and these people will reoffend.
I don't much care what happens to jailbirds once they're inside, but
they won't be theiving and dealing whilst they are there. If they
reoffend on release than they should go back and stay there. The Criminal
Intelligence Units know who the drugs barons are - why can't their
assets be frozen?. Presumably once the barons are stopped the Intelligence
units won't have jobs!
bert fegg
notts |
Emergency
services affected by gridlock
Hi, Over the past few nights on my way home I have seen a fire engine
stuck in the traffic around woolaton street and an ambulance. I think
this is a disgrace. There should be police on hand to organise this
fiasco. Also it takes me 40 minutes to get from Talbot st to Canning
Circus around the maid marian way island at night. What sort of a
planning department does this city Have? They are trying to do too
much at once and endangering peoples lives by not making adequate
arrangements for essential services. The police will need to be on
hand to sort out possible incidents of road rage as I see many people
getting very agitated as I sit in the traffic. Why has this fiasco
been so badly organised and what do the authorities intend to do to
put it right.
Anon |
Getting
in and out
Well done to Nottingham City council for having the hindsight not
to do anything about commuters issues in Nottingham. Great lets build
a tram system! however your complete lack of consideration towards
commuters has been unbelievable. I like many others catch a bus from
Bingham to Nottingham, this costs me about 15拢 a week, roughly the
same as a car would, however i consider myself to be forward thinking
in the fact that owning a car just adds to the city's traffic problems.
However now that i have witnessed the farce and the waiting for busses
that never turn up, busses that are to full to take any more,busses
that simply do not turn up without explanation! and when i do get
on one i have to stand right at the front window next to the driver,
something which i believe is very dangerous! So i have deceided that
pollution is the way forward. Screw your enviroment bullshit! i am!
v! ery close to loosing my job due to the fact that i can not get
to work on time! Who's going to pay the council tax then! Screw the
City council!
matin
Nottingham |
|
Drug Problems
I'm from Birmingham,
and was directed to your site by a friend. It appears that parents
everywhere are facing the same problems. There are tremendous drug
problems in Birmingham, and these are spreading into the quietest
suburbs. Having seen drug pushers openly selling near schools and
clubs a large group of concerned parents were able to arrange a
meeting with the local police force.
There followed
an incredible tale of lack of resources, lack of evidence, inability
to prosecute, going after the 'big boys' etc. In short, almost every
excuse possible for not dealing with the drug sellers who were the
reason for our concern.
When one extremely
irate parent finally suggested that he would get some of his mates
with pick axe handles and 'sort them out for good', the discussion
took on a completely different aspect, with the police then looking
on the parents as criminals. In no uncertain terms we were told
that there was quote, "no room in our society for 'vigilantes',
and that "we must not try to take the Law into your own hands"
If the police are unable (or unwilling) to deal with the matter,
then who will? The same 'pushers' are still there.
Disgusted
Birmingham
|
|
Beninck proposed
landfill
My Name is Gail Turner I am Chair of Selston Area Residents Association.
For the last 2 1/2 year this group has been fighting landfill proposals
which would bring the largest landfill in the country site to Selston.
We have fought this issue on many fronts and provided new evidence
for the county council proving that this site which is noe a site
od importance for nature conservation as there are habitats od flora
and fauna which are protected. Today Wednesday 19th September 2001
the cabinet of notts county council voted to reccomend to the full
council adoption of this site. The cabinet papers for this meeting
were full of untruths. The council says in the papers that hazadous
waste will not come to Bentinck this is not true because in the
application there is provision for special waste which is hazadous
waste including radioactive waste. This organisation deposited 2000
objections last year but only 641 are counted because the others
were rejected because we had not offered a solution which is not
the public's job. Because of our new evidence the planiong application
is obsolete and a fresh application must be submitted. the county
council says that further modifications are so minor the public
does not need to be consulted this is unbalanced. The county council
will not re-open the public inquiry where this evidence was not
aired we the public have a right to be heard they are eroding our
human rights. There is much much more.
Gail Turner
Selston
in reply
Any other suggestions
as to where it should go? Thats the problem with the average single
issue pressure group - "not in my back yard" but no plausible alternative
suggestions.
Nigel Thomas
Alfreton
|
Nottingham
Roads
A new survey has revealed that almost two thirds of Nottingham's main
roads are in need of urgent repair. No surprise there then - The Council
would rather spend its (your) money fighting court cases it knows
cannot be won (Nuthall Island & Castle Boulevard) and on parking meters
which don't work properly. Not to mention the Ice Stadium which is
a massively overpriced white elephant. The Tram is another massively
overpriced scheme, taking huge resources which could be spread over
other parts of the City. Without a properly maintained infrastructure
the City will deteriorate rapidly.
bert fegg
notts |
|
rogue builders
The most recent figures from the Office of Fair Trading, which compiles
statistics from trading standards departments around the country,
shows there were 70,736 complaints about home maintenance in the
past year.
How many of
these rogue builders are travellers, who set up camp wherever they
like and then pester local residents to have fascias fitted, drives
surfaced and trees removed (dumping the waste on their illegal sites
before moving on) ?.
There should
be a law preventing this type of outfit from working, they just
take take take and put nothing whatsoever back.
bert fegg
notts
|
Boots
The Chemist
I cannot believe the rumours im hearing..Boots are to leave Tokyo
for good, They are closing down all 4 stores...This is also happening
in all the other foreign countires where Boots has a presence. Can
Anyone shed some light on this..
carl
Tokyo |
General
State Of Our City
I would just like to comment on the current situation in our city.
Firstly I would like to take up the point of the ridiculous amount
of bars in our city centre. Is it me or does there seem to be a new
bar opened every week in town? If we don't want to encourage drunks
and louts to our town then why so many bars? Also I would like to
comment on the amount of police time spent hassling kids on skateboards.
Firstly we should encourage our youngsters to skateboard, not persecute
them. For heavens sake they are not criminals so why treat them as
such? I have seen police hound these poor kids all day long, yet not
once have I seen the police stop beggars, drunks, drug users or aggressive
yobs. Why is this? Would you rather they were taking drugs, mugging,
shop-lifting? Stop this madness at once...I can know see why people
leave this City in droves...I consider doing it myself!
J Pragg
Nottingham City |
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