AISLIN MCGUCKIN:That which hath made them drunk hath made me bold.
JONATHAN SLINGER:The iambic pentameter. Di dum, di dum, di dum, di dum, di dum.
MICHAEL BOYD:Ti tum, ti tum, ti tum, ti tum, ti tum.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:The heartbeat, the - di dum, di dum is how we speak in-- It's how we all-- It's how we communicate to each other now.
And the understood structure here is based on this ten beat line. Ten beats and five鈥 five stresses鈥 I don't know, "That which hath made them drunk hath made me bold." That's a very, very regular line.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:That which hath made them drunk hath made me bold.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:What hath quench'd them hath given me fire.
JONATHAN SLINGER:The truth is that we very often speak in iambic pentameter just naturally. I'd really like to have a cup of tea, right? Now鈥 Nobody says, "I'd really like to have a cup of tea" do they?
MICHAEL BOYD:Listening their fear, I could not say 'Amen.'
JONATHAN SLINGER:Listening their fear, I could not say 'Amen.' Actors, students, you know, they go round doing this di dum, di dum鈥 And it's very difficult, once you've got it so rigidly in your head to let go of it because the truth is, you have to let go of it.
JONATHAN SLINGER:How-- whatever-- Of whatever interest it is it is no longer interesting when you can still hear it when an actor's saying it. It just gets in the way and it stops people from understanding what you're saying.
JONATHAN SLINGER:Still it cried, "Sleep no more!" to all the house. Glamis hath murder'd sleep, and therefore Cawdor Shall sleep no more. MACBETH SHALL SLEEP NO MORE.
MICHAEL BOYD:'I have drugged their possets that death and nature do contend about them鈥' and then you've got the beginning of a short line '鈥hether they live or die.' And then there's another short line - from Macbeth, off, 'Who's there what ho?' So actually that does make up ten beats so it suggests it probably should 'Boom鈥' come in and flow like a line.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:I have drugg'd their possets, that death and nature do contend about them, whether they live or die.
JONATHAN SLINGER:Who's there? What, ho! There are a lot of shared lines in this scene. I have done the deed. Didst thou not hear a noise?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:I heard the owl scream and the crickets cry. Did not you speak?
JONATHAN SLINGER:When?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Now.
JONATHAN SLINGER:As I descended?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Ay.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:The sharing of the lines in the 'Bloody Daggers' or post-murder scene I think allows us to hear how鈥 urgent the need to communicate is between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth at that point. They don't have a great deal of time; it's almost as if time has escalated.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:That they-- There isn't time for pause. They are coming in on each other's lines because of panic, rising panic.
JONATHAN SLINGER:As I descended?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Ay.
JONATHAN SLINGER:Hark!
JONATHAN SLINGER:Who lies i' the second chamber?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Donalbain.
JONATHAN SLINGER:This is a sorry sight.
JONATHAN SLINGER:In this scene鈥 the heartbeat is, "De-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de." And yet you're sharing those de-de. So you've got, "De-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de, de-de."
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:I heard the owl scream and the crickets cry. Did not you speak?
JONATHAN SLINGER:When?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Now.
JONATHAN SLINGER:As I descended?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Ay.
JONATHAN SLINGER:Hark!
JONATHAN SLINGER:Who lies i' the second chamber?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Donalbain.
JONATHAN SLINGER:This is a sorry sight.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:A foolish thought, to say a sorry sight.
JONATHAN SLINGER:'When anybody is in that kind of heightened state' people start to talk very, very quickly at each other, finish each other's sentences, come in-- It鈥檚 a very鈥 heightened way of communicating and I think that's what Shakespeare's doing in this scene.
MICHAEL BOYD:It ends鈥 with a complete line鈥 from鈥 "A foolish thought, to say a sorry sight." with a complete line from you. You're-- you're sharing lines鈥
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Uh huh.
MICHAEL BOYD:鈥n that bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bit and then you almost put a stop to it with, "Let's get back to proper lines."
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:OK.
MICHAEL BOYD:I mean obviously she's not thinking that but鈥
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Yeah. Yeah.
MICHAEL BOYD:But it marks the moment when you're trying to bring it back to sanity, to reason.
MICHAEL BOYD:I could smell fear on them more clearly as their heart rate and their language accelerated.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:My husband.
JONATHAN SLINGER:I have done the deed. Didst thou not hear a noise?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:I heard the owl scream and the crickets cry. Did not you speak?
JONATHAN SLINGER:When?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Now.
JONATHAN SLINGER:As I descended?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Ay.
JONATHAN SLINGER:Hark!
JONATHAN SLINGER:Who lies i' the second chamber?
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:Donalbain.
JONATHAN SLINGER:This is a sorry sight.
AISLIN MCGUCKIN:A foolish thought, to say a sorry sight.