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17-year-old Ellie Gould was half way through her A levels when she was stabbed to death by her first boyfriend - a fellow student, in her family home in Wiltshire. Ellie had broken off the 'suffocating' 3 month relationship the night before.

24-year-old Poppy Devey-Waterhouse was a quantitative trading analyst living in a flat in Leeds with her boyfriend of 3 years. She had ended the relationship and was due to leave. Her bags were packed. Before she could, her boyfriend attacked and killed her - she was asleep in her bed. He inflicted 100 injuries upon her as she tried to escape.

If those men had taken a knife and killed the women in the street or in a park, their minimum jail term would have been 25 years. But because they killed them in their homes - it wasn't. 

Ellie and Poppy's mums - Carole Gould and Julie Devey have forged a friendship over what they see as an injustice, and have come together to try and change what they call an 'immoral' disparity in sentencing.

As part of Newsnight’s focus this year on questions over the justice system, Victoria Derbyshire spoke to Carole and Julie in their first interview since meeting with the Victims Minister.

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