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This episode is about leadership. The team are joined by the UN’s former top climate diplomat, Christiana Figueres, and her political strategist, Tom Rivett-Carnac, who helped bring together world leaders for the historic Paris Agreement to combat climate change in 2015. They host the ‘Outrage and Optimism’ pod and they’ve written a book called ‘The Future We Choose’. Liz Bonnin, Victoria Gill and Matt McGrath discuss the challenges and opportunities for leaders acting to bring down emissions and hear why Christiana remains stubbornly optimistic for the future.