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Model Charli Howard chats to her friend and mentor Daisy Lowe about standing out on the catwalk, standing up for her beliefs on the picket line and the best outfit to wear to a protest.

In a pre-lockdown chat, Daisy shares what it was like to become one of the few curvaceous models in the fashion world, at a time when it was still dominated by size zero. Now she's putting herself out there to get greenhouse gas emissions to net zero. But can you do self-care and still care for the planet?

Presenter: Charli Howard
Producer: Kirsty McQuire
Editor: Rebecca Stratford

If you are affected by issues raised in this episode you can get more information at www.bbc.co.uk/actionline.

Image: Presenter Charli Howard with model and campaigner, Daisy Lowe