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"We're here to play hockey, win games and drink beers..."

That's the ethos of the Southern Lights Ice Hockey Club in Melbourne, Australia - and, in almost every way, they're just like all the other sides they end up playing. But in one regard, the Lights are entirely unique - as they were set up last year to be the country's first-ever inclusive hockey team.

The team's creation came at the same time as the Australian LGBT Ice Hockey organisation was set up - so why are they both needed, and what difference are they making?

President Carl Jackson joins us to talk all about it - including how he got into the sport; how the Lights were set up; the ethos that keeps driving it all forward; and what the goal is for the future. Oh, and we think we've committed to training with the Lights if we ever end up in Australia - so wish us well with that one!

Genuinely, Carl is a lovely bloke to chat with - incredibly articulate and passionate about his sport - and we reckon he's the perfect guest to get the New Year underway!

WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTS?
https://southernlightsicehockey.com/

WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SHOW?
@jack_murley
jack.murley@bbc.co.uk