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Joivan Wade and Percelle Ascott talk to Charmaine Hayden about how she got here. In this episode, Joivan & Percelle talk to Charmaine Hayden, who has built and runs an international modelling agency Face4Music which is changing the way the industry engages with models. She is also founder of The Goal Digger Power Circle, motivating and empowering females in business. Throughout the series Joivan and Percelle will be talking to people who have made their own success and taken their ideas from bedroom to boardroom. Guests include comedy writer/performer Kayode Ewumi, agent Dumi Oburota, entrepreneur Tara Button, model agency director Chams Hayden and comedian Mo Gilligan. This podcast is created in association with Radio 1鈥檚 Academy. Discover more at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/academy