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Pub owner: 'supermarkets not a threat'
For the first time beer sales in shops, including supermarkets, have overtaken those in pubs, bars and clubs.
The British Beer and Pub Association says 51% of beer is now sold in shops, up from 20% in 1990.
Jack Gervaise-Brazier, co-owner of the White Rock Brewery in Guernsey, opened The Golden Lion the last year.
He told 5 live's Sean Farrington he isn't worried about declining beer sales in pubs.
This clip is originally from Wake Up To Money on Tuesday 27 September 2016.
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