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With her signature black eye makeup and bondage attire Siouxsie Sioux became one of the most striking figures of punk, casting a inky shadow over the goth and new romantic scenes that were to follow.

We sat siouxsie down with punk designer & long time friend Pam Hogg to talk about the challenges she faced as a front woman, the first time they met and why she will never wear skinny jeans. Hear their full extended conversation in all it鈥檚 glory here.