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In episode two of Football Firsts, Jermain and Troy talk about the first time they were dropped from the team, the stories behind it, and the impact it had on them.

Troy discusses how managers used to tell him they were leaving him out in a way in which he wouldn't get angry, whilst Jermain tells a story of how he was dropped for a game at Old Trafford after scoring two goals the previous week, believing the manager was joking.

The pair argue about whether Jermain scored a "Van Basten", discuss how to look when you're on the bench in a TV game, dig into the weeds on why Troy and the new Napoli manager Walter Mazzari didn't get on, and quiz each other about whether they were ever happy when the player replacing them in the line-up got on the score sheet. And Jermain reveals what happened at West Ham when club legend Paolo Di Canio was dropped.

And they look at the ongoing situations at Arsenal with their two goalkeepers, and with the Jaden Sancho issue at Manchester United.