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In 2019, ahead of his visit to Cardiff where he led workshops at the Llandaff and Monmouth Festival of Prayer, Roy Jenkins met member of the Iona Community, the Rev John Bell.

A prolific writer, preacher and broadcaster who鈥檚 passionate about social justice and not afraid to say what he thinks, John has often been described as a 鈥楯ohn the Baptist鈥� like figure. He鈥檚 spent a lifetime devoted to the ministry of music in particular, working to 鈥渞enew congregational worship鈥� in the church at 鈥渢he grass roots鈥� 鈥� and to that end he鈥檚 produced an ever-growing list of hymns which have been taken up around the world, many of them with a distinctly Scottish melodic flavour.

Roy Jenkins talked to him about his life, work , and passions.

This programme was first broadcast in 2019.