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Tonight Johnnie and broadcaster and journalist David Hepworth look at the 1985 breakthrough debut of New York new-waif singer songwriter Suzanne Vega and Joni Mitchell's classic third album Ladies Of The Canyon from 1970.

For the first time in the series, rather than hearing archive interview clips from Suzanne, the programme recorded her memories recently, which also means she can look back, with the benefit of hindsight, at the subject of some of the songs then, who is now her partner in real life.

Suzanne still features many of the songs from her eponymous album in her stage set and as Suzanne mentions, like so many great hit singles, the track Marlene On The Wall nearly ended up in her waste paper basket.

Joni's album contains several of her most loved songs, such as Big Yellow Taxi, Woodstock and The Circle Game. Johnnie and David discuss the fact that often in Joni's records, when sounding her most confessional it may be song writing artifice, but conversely she can smuggle in the most personal secrets without any of us realising.