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Richard speaks to illusionist Derren Brown about his London West End Show Infamous, they talk about the differences between an illusionist and a mentalist. Derren also tells Richard that his new show is going back to basics and has much more of a personal angle.

And Richard looks at the week's science stories in Bacon's Theory with Mark Miodownik - Professor of Materials & Society at UCL, and author of a new book Stuff Matters and physics expert, science presenter and one part of the Spoken Nerd Helen Arney.