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Great bard of the British Empire - or propagandist for imperialism? Rudyard Kipling died 75 years ago. Kipling specialist Daniel Karlin and historian and political activist Tariq Ali discuss the writer and poet whose reputation has divided readers over the last hundred years. Rana Mitter presents.

The programme is part of Radio 3's Proms Plus Literary exploring some of the literary and cultural dimensions of this year's Proms concerts, in front of an audience at the Royal College of Music, right next door to the Albert Hall and just in advance of the concerts themselves.