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Declan is joined by the outgoing boss of Persimmon, John White and the founder of Addison Lee John Griffin. We go back to the 1980s, and find out why his taxi business started with horses. And it was around this time that unemployment was at a high in Britain. The boss of head hunting firm Taylor Bennett, Heather McGregor, talks about this week's job figures - and how they compare to that time, thirty years ago.