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What an excellent idea. I’ve recently moved from the Norwich, UK to Perth, Western Australia and my family’s effects preceded us half way around the world in a container, much like the one used by the 91Èȱ¬, that left via Felixstowe. It is certainly interesting to have a container brought to our doorstep, and fortunately loaded by experts, then swept up into the network of trade that knits our world together. On the day of its departure I, with my brother, happened to be walking down the Suffolk Coast just north of the port. Standing off shore were vast container ships manoeuvring in and out of the port. I was struck that our little container was somewhere amongst the hundreds on board the ships.

En-route to Perth we stopped off in Singapore. If ever there were a home of the container that is the place. When the traveller flies into Singapore’s airport their plane passes over fleets of container ships at anchor waiting to enter the harbour; to be loaded and unloaded with express efficiency.

At the end of our journey, and a wait for our stuff to clear customs we had the joy of watching as our container was unloaded in front of our new home. Once here I discovered that we have nearby a front row seat for the process in operation. Perth’s port, Fremantle, offers one the opportunity to sit in the sheds of the old port sipping cappuccino while on the opposite shore of the Swan River the container port unloads the container ships in close proximity to the observer. Containers really are the building blocks of our civilization.

I’ll be following this story with interest.

I agree the idea is a good one, but I feel the branding of the container and the admission of editorial interference in the process will limit the value of the experiment.

Why not use a standard container? The tracker will work just as well. You are tempting the shipping companies to manipulate the use of the container to get 91Èȱ¬ coverage.

Intiguing - particularly if you know whats really inside it.

Example: If it goes from England to India there's a big difference between it being full of manufactured goods or being full of 'recycled' rubbish to be dumped in India.

Is someone going to check whats in it or are you relying on self declaration by the shipper?

An excellent idea, although I'm not sure what Declan will make of being stuck in 'The Box' for a year - although I'm looking forward to his typically acerbic and laconic comments...

Seriously though - a good idea which I've only just cottoned on to. Although Brookside used one as a plot device some years ago...

Wasn't there also a brief film some years ago about how old containers were being used as temporary homes/shelters in disaster areas ?

Very intresting idea. What aspects of the projects will the 91Èȱ¬ be controling? We need to know so we can judge how close to the truth the project is.

#5 "We need to know so we can judge how close to the truth the project is."

Do we? Why?

Its not like all containers carry the same stuff to all locations. Surely the idea of this is just to give an idea how important shipping is for the world economy. Even by the paranoia of some of these blogs suggesting the 91Èȱ¬ would fabricate this for some dark unspecified reason is disturbing.

#2.

I agree that branding reduces the efficacy of the idea (which is very interesting) and that, perhaps, the 91Èȱ¬ should have picked a number of containers to compare and contrast activity.

I'd also like to see a similar experiment with migrant EU workers to compare and contrast their successes and failures as they move between and within EU countries.

I agree about the logo. It's a real red flag to any less than 100% honest persons not to do anythign even slightly incriminating with it. In fact you might also fins shippers less willing to use it at all.

Excellent idea........
91Èȱ¬ will now be known to people as one of those radio stations which are reaching to
each and every country if not by signals, then by its logo.

Fascinating study. I'm intrigued to see that the container has travelled north, and is now sitting in a cul-de-sac just outside Birmingham!

Are there any plans to show when the box tracking webpage was last updated. How frequently will the tracking website be updated. (realtime would be very nice) looking forward to following this item. Classic.. you should have done a tv series about it and the people/characters that come into contact with the BOX (i.e around the world in 80 days with Michael Palin type)

looks like its on a Train going into Crewe at present 14:52

Passed me northbound on a train at Lichfield Trent Valley at 1245 today. The 91Èȱ¬ colours certainly make it stand out...

It would be nice if the web page had its own rss feed so the journey could be followed in an rss reader.

It would be very useful if you could draw a red line on the map to show exactly where the container has been. At the moment it is only possible to see where it is, not how it got there. I know you are going to pinpoint key location as it progresses, but it would be interesting to see how it gets to those key locations.

Also can you provide the GPS coordinates so we can pop those into other online maps like Google Maps or MultiMaps so we can see a satellite view of the containers location?

I think the implementation of these options would make following this project even more interesting.

Many thanks

I also second Animanima's comment about RSS. This would make it much more convenient to follow.

It is a good idea, one my children were also interested in. But already they're fast losing said interest. According to your map, the box is on a railway line about ten miles outside Glasgow and has been for about 24 hours now. I understand we cant follow in real time but im sure you can do better than this.

Why not provide some images and video that can be used by 'us' to write about the project? The map is good, but there could be more.

Excellent. We know that The Box is going to be full of whisky, and will be travelling between Paisley and Southampton. Thanks for the tip-off, me and the boys will be on the look-out for a big red box with 91Èȱ¬ News on the side.

You haven't seen me, right?

Re: post 17. The Box was in the goods yard at Coatbridge overnght, being unloaded from the train to a lorry so that it could be delivered by road to the bottling plant.

Cranes have to lift the container from the rail vehicles to a storage area, then later (sometimes days later) onto trucks for onward shipping.

Could you do a daily fact sheet on information on what lorry, train transport was used from the start? How long it stay in the yard or holding bay and why? Can you use a Webcam on the side of the container? Just some ideas to make it more interesting for younger views

Can someone explain why it was necessary for the container to travel empty to Scotland? I'm asuming it was empty?
Dont they have empty 40 footers already in Scotland?
And what does RSS mean?

Will the stupid fool at the 91Èȱ¬ who decided this was a wise idea please makes themselves known. You have told the criminal network in the UK where a really valuable load of whisky is situated in the UK to within 50ft and hijackers can follow it on their mobile phone.

I teach 11 year olds in Scotland and we are studying China. This box is great for the kids to track from their country to a distant nation. What a great idea and it came at just the right time for us. Thanks 91Èȱ¬!

Agree with the brighter post pointing out the dangers of advertising whisky. cigarettes. or bullion on the outside of a container.
We can expect a shotgun raid at the very least in the near future.
But not only that, in some parts of the world the containers have often been sold as a valuable detached property, the ones openly seen in India and other places are often the property of western companies, and many of them are mortgaged to the Chase Manhatton Bank.

Touching a very interesting subject here, but is anyone interested in a proposal submitted by the very underestimated John Prescott several years ago.

A very small part of the idea only. was to use the time tested methods of the old railway companies to keep track of the where abouts of all empty vehicles; and ship them to a holding centre, for diversion to consignees with goods needing transportation.

Today a glance on the congested motorways and side roads, merely confirms that there is no system or sense in present methods; where we see empty vehicles and containers dashing from one end of the country to the other, without thought for fuel efficiency, the environment or indeed anything else.

Perhaps Mr Prescott became discouraged by the crude antics of the predatory press and some of the politicions of lesser ability.

Noting the delay in monitoring a post, I would respectfully mention the authentic nature of my material, it is backed by a newspaper report in my possession.

I was security consultant to B.R. at the time, I was involved in the enquiry, and the arresting officer was a valued ex colleague.

"A Day In The Life Of A Penny".

Favourite Primary School writing topic - now revived by the 91Èȱ¬. I bet people will be sitting on the edge of their seats for the next thrilling instalment...

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Well, I'm thrilled by this editorial project. I am learning so much already. First, I've learned some really basic things such as what the 400 mile truck route from Southampton to Glasgow would look like (using Google Earth to chart the course). I've learned a great deal just from sleuthing in anticipating the ship route back to Southampton. I've researched the Isle of Man, found out the Titanic was dry-docked in Belfast, learned about AIS (vessel tracking system) and a whole lot more. In fact, as one is prone to do these days, I set up a blog (www.followthecontainer.com) to overlay "my virtual adventure" with that of the adventure of "The Box". I am learning a great deal (even as 91Èȱ¬ sorts out some start-up GPS glitches) about inter modal transportation, shipping history and I expect to learn a great deal about global commerce and our shrinking planet as time passes. Thank you for this wonderful project!

Well done for that site (www.followthecontainer.com) now you will have my 100% watching this container were ever it goes. Can anyone tell me if you can add to it’s blog?

If you have read 'The Box' you should appreciate that the series 1 containers - favoured by the US army - are far from being the optimum dimensions for general freight - (CEN) Intermodal and interoperable workshop - 1999-12-13/14 page 40.

A quick look at the trucks on the roads shows that modern transport has moved on to a more efficient, more appropriate pallet wide package but which is still not yet an optimum length due again to inappropriate legislation.

A future series of loading unit, economic on the roads and readily transferable between modes (rail and sea), would avoid the subsidy implicit in running two systems and eliminate the waste. Then the possibility of a quick and reliable transfer would improve the attractiveness of building more efficient combined transport chains - a vision that we could all support.

In an era of fuel scarcity and climate change we need to be allowed to think outside the Box and demonstrate our ideas.

~Carl

BladeRunner 2020 - "the next transport revolution"

All of our eyes is on "The box". But i am wondering how huch would be the technical cost. regarding cost of transportation go to .