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There are certainly more important things you could be covering rather than this piece.

Also, how is it that you know you are a lot more accurate than other publications, do you know what was said?

Zinedene Zidane, A great player, World is egarly waiting to witness the miracle from him,was not expected to bear such an end.He should not be induced to do something recklessly as to be driven out from the field

Easy, nerdboy. I thought this was quite interesting - and it was good to see someone really going to some lengths to get it right. it's a lot more believable when you've actually seen someone doing the translation.

How can you be sure that the 91Èȱ¬'s results are more accurate then someone elses if you don't know what was truly said?

All you can say is that your guess is better than theirs. But it is still a guess.

i wondered about that too. I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure what was said. Have the two got a long lasting animosity or was it just a heat of the moment thing?

"Fair game" and "more important things"? Surely given the importance of the fight against racism (& facism, especially in Italian football) and the fact that such an alleged action may have occured in a World Cup final, of all games, would make it a legitimate subject to investigate? Personally, I think that even if it is not a recial/religious slur, comments of the nature as wishing death upon one's family goes far beyond what is acceptable or part and parcel of a football game.

Do some readers really think taking Materazzi's word (or that of his agent) is sufficiently conclusive - would these readers also take the words of a politician as final and correct and beyond investigating? I doubt it. News organisations are perfectly entitled to use any means of investigation as the context requires. Given there is clearly no sound, using lip-readers, even if not perfect, is justified. And if they believe it can counter the denials of Materazzi and his agent, they are entitled to express their view.

Irrespective of what was actually (or not said), whilst racism has no place in football (or anywhere else for that matter)… he’s an extremely talented well paid athlete who should not of reacted the way he did, no matter what may or may not have provoked him! Red card Zidane, and deservedly so!

'A genuine scoop'? Yet the 91Èȱ¬ themselves have come up with two completely different versions of what was said, not to mention all the other versions doing the rounds. Is this really what the 91Èȱ¬ news team thinks is a scoop? Up to the usual low standards of 91Èȱ¬ journalism.

It was obvious from the way Zidane reacted that Materazzi said something totally out of order. It's quite likely he had been making racist comments throughout the game and his final taunt was a step too far.

It's perfectly legitimate for journalists to try to get to the bottom of what happened; personally, I think FIFA should be doing the same.

Racism and other vicious personal comments are not rendered acceptable by a large pay packet!

PS. Our colleagues at Five Live, using similar methods, have come up with a slightly different translation. .

J.G: Perhaps they came up with the other version _before_ they came up with this one? How can the 91Èȱ¬ be blamed for "all the other versions doing the rounds"?

I think it's important to remember that these players are human beings, not machines. If you provoke them, they'll react. I appreciate that ideally they'll rise above it, but history is full of examples of when people act like humans, and react instinctively.

does Zidane speak Italian then?

Ed, No 14
No, one part of the 91Èȱ¬ came up with one version, and another part came up with a different version (see 13 above which was inserted when I pointed this out).

My statement still stands, the 91Èȱ¬ think their lip-reading guesses are a great scoop because their standards are now so low.

re No 13 by Host

You say that five live have come up with a "slightly different translation". lets compare the two:

Five live
"you're the son of a terrorist whore"

10 O'Clock news
"no...clam down...liar...[I wish] an ugly death to you and your family...Go f*** yourself"

Could you please explain to me how these two translations are SLIGHTLY different?!!

Great scoop, Pulitzer class I should think.

to Jemissi >
For your information he's not British and many foreigners speak at least two languages.
I am Algerian and I speak Arabic, French, English, Italian and Spanish.

OK Salim, it was only a question! Actually, after I posted, I remembered he played for Juventus so I guess that answers my question - as long as his language skills at least match those of our dear Beckham! (see

Is there a difinitive version of what was said, or is it still guessing?

THanks