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Hello Outriders!

This week we have an author interview on the podcast and one that might share a picture of some of the movers and shakers in our world online.

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’s book - follows her journey through Germany’s legendary Chaos Computer Club through meetings with extraordinary hackers like Rop Gonggrijp and Julian Assange and asks some tricky questions about the nature of online new radicals and activists.

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We talked about the politics of code and the people who work on making our online environment open.

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Until next week!

~ Jamillah