Is Mark Cavendish already a legend?
Pushed for time to tell a story on television, succinct soundbites are a gift. Brian Holm, sports director for the cycling team, delivers one with the final words of his interview.
We are discussing , road cycling's supremely talented Manx sprinter, who begins his fifth campaign next week. Earlier this year, we spent two days with him and his HTC team in Belgium.
Holm, a Danish former pro, clears his throat a final time. With the air of a doting grandfather, he looks me in the eye and says: "He is already a legend."
Holm and his HTC colleagues do not see the enigma in 26-year-old Cavendish that others do. Despite 15 Tour de France stage wins in the last three years - almost unparalleled in the sport - Cavendish sometimes seems known in Britain only as . Irritable, outspoken, even selfish.
When he received an MBE earlier this month, somebody on Twitter said they didn't know why: "The stories I've heard don't make him sound like a team player." Cavendish, a sigh audible in his typing, : "And I drown kittens."