Thursday 22 September 2011
There's quite a lot of sport planned for this evening's Newsnight, including from the 91Èȱ¬'s Sports Editor David Bond who'll be telling us five ways competitors could cheat at the 2012 Olympics.
Then we'll be joined live by Olympic champion and anti-corruption campaigner Michael Johnson.
Gavin will be meeting the Russian oligarch who bank rolls the Independent and Evening Standard newspapers, Alexander Lebedev.
And our Diplomatic editor Mark Urban will be watching David Cameron's intervention speech at the UN later.
Comment number 1.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:NOT CHEATING AT THE 2012 OLYMPICS WOULD BE TO DISHONOUR THE HOST NATION
CORRUPTION, in post-integrity Britain, is the psychological 'staff of life', and now that 'sport' is industrial and commercialised, the Games might do well to have their permanent home here. The 'national' Lottery could be given the on-site betting franchise, and a fashion for betting on losers encouraged.
Weep London
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Comment number 2.
At 22nd Sep 2011, brossen99 wrote:Sounds like a plan to get everyone to watch Limp-Dump conference Question time ?
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Comment number 3.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:WILL CAMERON BRING PERSONAL FOIBLE TO THE UN AS HE DID TO THE NAT. TRUST?
Surely, Cameron's PERSONAL influence should stop at Conservative PARTY matters? Government is supposed to be cabinet/party of power/ Parliament. Dave has only NOTIONAL state primacy from the Queen.
Were we not so reliant on the 91Èȱ¬, he would be challenged over his Presidential behaviour. Dave did not gain high office on grounds of competence, he simply scored high marks, among his ilk, FOR ALL THE NEGATIVE ARTTRIBUTES BELOVED OF WESTMIINSTER DENIZENS. He is only elected leader of the Conservative Party. The rest is smoke and mirrors.
Would you hire a kindergarten manager on the grounds that he has had success in animal training?
Why do we put up with this feudal charade?
FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.
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Comment number 4.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:Can't wait to see how the 91Èȱ¬ and western MSM will distort and twist Ahmadinejad's speech, to be given at the UN later today.
Here's his speech from last year...it mentioned the possibility of a US 9/11 conspiracy quite a bit.
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Comment number 5.
At 22nd Sep 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'the Russian oligarch who bank rolls the Independent and Evening Standard newspapers'
Do they know? And don't mind?
Considering Mr. L's pugilistic preferences, maybe not.
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Comment number 6.
At 22nd Sep 2011, stevie wrote:what is the difference between an Arab spring and an application by the Palestinians that has been on the table since 1967, the 242 resolution and the 338 resolution? Is it because the Jewish lobby in the Senate has Barrack Obama by the unmentionables and he has to do what all US Presidents do...namely nothing....
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Comment number 7.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:"YES WE CAN" - BUT ONLY BY SELLING OUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL (#6)
In the Age of Perversity, great play is made of DEMOCRACY, yet political gain is OVERTLY BOUGHT. Obama has big debts to repay. We had honours for cash - America has a president for cash.
Before every UK General Election, the parties receive big money from those hoping for favourable legislation. Such a joke that MPs must 'declare interest' when debating, but PARTIES DO NOT HAVE TO DECLARE 'FAVOURED DONORS' in the same way.
The OED has been purging redundant words. Bye bye DEMOCRACY.
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Comment number 8.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:THE TROUBLE WITH MISSIONARIES - THEY DON'T ‘DO’ THE HOME COUNTRY
Dave is sure he his bringing The Word(s) 'FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY' to the oppressed masses of Elsewhere. Isn't that always the way with missionaries?
Here at home, we are only free to follow the rat-maze AS LAID OUT BY WESTMINSTER and any rat who squeaks: "Westminster is corrupt, Democracy is being subverted, this government is illegitimate", is ignored, as the insignificant rodent he is.
What we need is a saviour missionary . . .
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Comment number 9.
At 22nd Sep 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:the west is civilised
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Comment number 10.
At 22nd Sep 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:how does Cameron square his UN speech with being a patron of the JNF whose polices would be against human rights in the uk?
or that the uk has kept people in prison without charge for over 10 years with no prospect of freedom?
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Comment number 11.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:HOME AND AWAY IN THE AGE OF PERVERSITY (#10)
I heard some wally going on about Cameron's CONFIDENCE - the correct word is ARROGANCE.
He truly is the heir to Blair. That ability to simply NOT SEE the fabric of UK life shredding under Westminster tyranny, while prancing the world stage mouthing: "Mother of Parliaments" "Rule of Law" and "Democracy", is a talent few ever master. I won't name the few, we all know them, and they have each cast their long shadow over the future, leaving a legacy of war-pollution - physical and psychological - that will endure interminably.
UNTIL GOOD MEN STOP DOING NOTHING WE WILL ALWAYS GET OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE
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Comment number 12.
At 22nd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:BLAIR OF JERUSALEM (#11 additional)
Watch from 10' 50"
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Comment number 13.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:FUN, FUN, FUN!
David Cameron attacks Ahmadinejad after UN walkout
Mr Cameron derided Mr Ahmadinejad from the United Nations podium minutes after the Iranian leader's ferocious attack on Western powers and Israel.
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Comment number 14.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:All 27 European delegations left the chamber midway through his speech, a few minutes after the Americans had vacated their seats. The protest was planned in the expectation that Mr Ahmadinejad would prove controversial.
David Cameron, who addressed the assembly shortly after Mr Ahmadinejad, said: "He didn't remind us that he runs a country where they may have elections of a sort but they also repress freedom of speech, do everything they can to avoid the accountability of a free media, violently prevent demonstrations and detain and torture those who argue for a better future."
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Comment number 15.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:The Iranian leader surpassed even his own outspoken standards as he accused the US of using the "mysterious" September 11 attacks as a pretext to launch wars on Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Comment number 16.
At 22nd Sep 2011, tawse57 wrote:'Sounds like a plan to get everyone to watch Limp-Dump conference Question time ?'
Yes, I agree. Newsnight fails again.
The time slot is perfect for in depth reporting and in depth debate of the day's major news stories, but time and time again NN goes off on stuff that is of interest to.... who exactly?
The global economy is in melt-down, people are fearing for their jobs, vast numbers of self-employed are eating into savings to keep businesses running but the handsomely paid public sector employees at 91Èȱ¬ Newsnight, wo clearly feel no affects of the recession verging on depression, indulge themselves in a lot of nonsense that is not relevant to the majority.
Paul Mason should be on tonight leading with the economic melt-down - NN is worrying about 2012 when the rest of us are worrying about returning to the 1930s!
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Comment number 17.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's UN speech prompts diplomatic walkouts
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Comment number 18.
At 22nd Sep 2011, nautonier wrote:Gavin will be meeting the Russian oligarch who bank rolls the Independent and Evening Standard newspapers, Alexander Lebedev.
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Watch out Gavin!
Get the first one in son - He's big but he's clumsy!
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Comment number 19.
At 22nd Sep 2011, nautonier wrote:How about Paul Mason for 91Èȱ¬ Economics editor!
Someone who does have real opinions - that are also worth listening to?
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Comment number 20.
At 22nd Sep 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:arab spring
given the remaining arab kingdoms have promised so much free cash to their people to bribe them so there is no arab spring and that to pay for it they have to keep oil above $80 then it looks like anyone who uses oil will be paying for what cameron calls the 'new opportunity'?
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Comment number 21.
At 22nd Sep 2011, jauntycyclist wrote:15
its well known the neocons had iraq in their sights pre 9/11 but didn't have an excuse to attack.
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Comment number 22.
At 22nd Sep 2011, brossen99 wrote:How to get Economic Growth Going ! ( none of the panel on QT seem to have any sound ideas )
/news/uk-england-15009316
Of course the eco-fascist protesters are doing their level best to support the current energy cartel and keep energy prices as high as possible to increase profits for corporate multinational big business. This is quite the opposite of what environmental protesters attempt to portray, but the sad fact is that if shale gas is developed the Corporate Nazi's will use their Climate Scam as an excuse to waste it on generating electricity instead of extending the life of natural gas as a very useful domestic fuel in the UK. We need to start using our plentiful supply of good quality UK coal to generate electricity again and stuff all the CO2 scam claptrap !
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Comment number 23.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 24.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 25.
At 22nd Sep 2011, museV wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 26.
At 22nd Sep 2011, brossen99 wrote:Once again the possible 500 quid on your energy bill and your job under threat from at least a 25% increase in business energy costs totally avoided by question time. Perhaps some fat cat 91Èȱ¬ journalists now feel uneasy about appearing to support a policy which steals from the most vulnerable in UK society to give to the super rich already. It really does our alleged democracy no favours to avoid this subject, perhaps especially since the eco-fascist 91Èȱ¬ has not yet published the latest CERN research on cloud formation and the sun's impact on climate change. They were quick enough to publish the latest CERN data suggesting that the speed of light could be exceeded, perhaps questioning Einstein the great man of physics himself ?
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Comment number 27.
At 23rd Sep 2011, restassured wrote:#26
Absolutely agree. Feel very uneasy about how the energy companies - like the banks - drift on in their own sweet way, impervious to public criticism and pussy-cat threats from government to be transparent about how they arrive at their ludicrously high costs
Not helped of course by our Energy Minister, Chris Huhne, pressing for huge amounts of financial investment in 'green' power via our energy bills. Yes we all want cheap, green energy. A crisp, pollution free world, nobody ever being unkind to one another and angels singing to us on high from wispy clouds.
Unfortunately most of us live in the real world. Unlike, dare I say...
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Comment number 28.
At 23rd Sep 2011, JunkkMale wrote:'26. At 23:47 22nd Sep 2011, brossen99 - Once again the possible 500 quid on your energy bill and your job under threat from at least a 25% increase in business energy costs totally avoided by question time.'
Control what goes into the edit suite, control how that is shaped, and control who gets to 'comment' (see that average 'Mum' whose background Newsnight was less than clear on before, was on the panel) and you have a lot of control.
Uniquely, in many cases.
Then, if something awkward does manage to scrape through, there are of course rules that can soon handle such an eventuality.
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Comment number 29.
At 23rd Sep 2011, barriesingleton wrote:PETER OBORN ACCUSES 91Èȱ¬ OF BIAS OVER EURO (Today Prog)
91Èȱ¬ silence, regarding the REALITIES of 9/11 still holding . . .
WHO CONTROLS THE 91Èȱ¬?
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Comment number 30.
At 23rd Sep 2011, JunkkMale wrote:29. At 09:01 23rd Sep 2011, barriesingleton -
WHO CONTROLS THE 91Èȱ¬?
I know who pays for it, uniquely. Otherwise, there seems to be a lot of trust involved.
Possibly misplaced.
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Comment number 31.
At 23rd Sep 2011, stevie wrote:after once again falling asleep waiting for QT then resorting to the iPlayer the next day brought me to the firm conclusion that NN trumped QT on content alone...now how many times do you say that? Newsnight over Question time...shurely a first...
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Comment number 32.
At 23rd Sep 2011, museV wrote:One more time...
Ahmadinejad's speech this year was corker imho.
Read it here and read it carefully. You decide if they are the words of a delusional mad man, as depicted by the West’s MSM, or a lucid, cogent and sentient man.
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Comment number 33.
At 23rd Sep 2011, kevseywevsey wrote:armadinnerjacket at the UN:
"....Who used the mysterious September 11 incident as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, killing, injuring, and displacing millions in two countries with the ultimate goal of bringing into its domination the Middle East and its oil resources?
Who nullified the Breton Woods system by printing trillions of dollars without the backing of gold reserves or equivalent currency? A move that triggered inflation worldwide and was intended to prey on the economic gains of other nations.
Which country’s military spending exceeds annually a thousand billion dollars, more than the military budgets of all countries of the world combined?
Which governments are the most indebted ones in the world?
Who dominates the policy-making establishments of the world economy?
Who are responsible for the world economic recession, and are imposing the consequences on America, Europe and the world in general?
Which governments are always ready to drop thousands of bombs on other countries, but ponder and hesitate to provide aid to famine-stricken people in
Somalia or in other places?
Who are the ones dominating the Security Council which is ostensibly responsible for safeguarding the international security?
There exist tens of other similar questions. Of course, the answers are clear. The majority of nations and governments of the world have had no role in the creation of the current global crises, and as a matter of fact, they were themselves the victims of such policies..."
Who would've thunk it, me and Ahmadinejad singing from the same page. He's up against it most of the time as the Govt media complex always play around with his words and show pictures of people walking out on him -the Israel crowd -when he gives speeches at the UN.
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Comment number 34.
At 23rd Sep 2011, kevseywevsey wrote:I've been given the week when it all falls apart:
How long is the average cruise holiday?
There you go..a little clue for you.
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Comment number 35.
At 23rd Sep 2011, museV wrote:#33 kev wrote:
"Who would've thunk it, me and Ahmadinejad singing from the same page. He's up against it most of the time as the Govt media complex always play around with his words and show pictures of people walking out on him -the Israel crowd -when he gives speeches at the UN."
It just shows how brainwashed we ALL are by the MSM.
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Comment number 36.
At 25th Sep 2011, JunkkMale wrote:35. At 19:44 23rd Sep 2011, museV wrote:
It just shows how brainwashed we ALL are by the MSM.
Always a bit cautious when inclusivity is made total.
But the MSM does indeed seem to be keen on brainwashing, and deploying censorship and propaganda in doing so.
It just seems an injury on insult when one is compelled to pay for it when one sees it for what it is and does feel that is right.
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