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Tuesday, 3 June, 2008

  • Newsnight
  • 3 Jun 08, 05:30 PM

From tonight's presenter, :

clintons_nn_203enlarge.jpgClinton and Obama
Is it finally the end of the road for Hillary? And have the Democrats chosen the right person? We'll have the latest from the final US primaries.

Eat your Greens
Is going vegetarian the answer to the world's food problems? Yvo de Boer, the head of the UN climate agency, thinks so. We'll discuss.
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The Winners
Some people are doing well out of the credit crunch. Who are they? And would they lend me a tenner?

Dogs
The RSPCA says we have an increasing problem with dangerous dogs. Why?

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 2.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 3.

    Brossen99 's no 1 comment takes exception to the proposed 'Eat your Greens' (a wittily ambiguous title I enjoyed) discussion tonight.

    But his opening comment, which I decline to repeat, was unfortunate and ill-considered
    as it suggests that people who promote vegeterianism are fascist and Nazi and this is not acceptable as it both defames promoters of vegeterianism and trivialises the enormous political error of fascism and the crimes of Nazism and I believe I am right in referring the comment to the moderators.

    If I may so the fact that Brossen99 rushes into cyberspace with his blog before even watching the debate is precisely the kind of blinkered arrogance that is one of the hallmarks of the fascist mindset.

  • Comment number 4.

    Its pretty clear that there are some people out there who wish to stifle open debate on any subject being promoted by alleged tree loving eco warriors but it would appear that I have been proven right on the Heathrow runway project. Only 3000 in attendance at a well publicized protest, obviously mostly locals concerned about being ethnically cleansed from their homes. No high profile press interviews with the various alleged " green " groups alleged to be strongly opposed to it.

    Of course the Greens can claim that any corporate ethnic cleansing that goes on due to following their policies are unintended consequences, but they can't deny the argument

  • Comment number 5.

    A DOG IS FOR LIFE

    I have made two observations regarding dogs and their owners; I suspect they are connected. The first is the widely acknowledged facial similarity; just as we are attracted to 'our own face' in a human partner, so we are in a dog companion.
    My second suspicion is that the dog becomes a member of the family, occupying some slot in the brain reserved for kith and kin, and is defended as such; its actions towards others often played down or even unreasonably defended. People from the dogless community are almost an alien species to many dog owners; empathy is absent. I think we might need two planets.

  • Comment number 6.

    'DANGEROUS' DOGS!
    This really was an outrageous piece of sensationalism which I would not have expected of Newsnight, and totally biased.

    The stills of dogs' teeth and snarling grimaces is the grossest injustice to dogs and irreparably harmful to people who are ignorant of the many good and kind characteristsics of dogs in general.

    In your report you say pit bulls are bred to fight. They are not. In the wrong hands, they are TRAINED to do so. A different matter entirely. Any dog, be it chihuahua or poodle, can be TRAINED to be aggressive.

    As for interviewing the man who is hugely reviled for his incompetence in bringing in the unjust and unworkable Dangerous Dogs Act in 1991 who had the gall to say the Act was not being properly implemented, please do get your facts right before you broadcast these harmful inaccuracies.

    I hope you will rectify the damage this programme has done to dogs by bringing the right people in to state the facts as they actually are, and not make headlines of so called dangerous dogs, which undoubtedly exist, but only in small numbers. These dogs in particular, need help to take them away from their cruel handlers, and this abominable law which allows dogs to be held for years without trial in appalling conditions, needs to be rescinded.

  • Comment number 7.

    "In your report you say pit bulls are bred to fight. They are not. In the wrong hands, they are TRAINED to do so. A different matter entirely. Any dog, be it chihuahua or poodle, can be TRAINED to be aggressive."

    No. Dogs are both bred AND trained to fight. You breed dogs like pitbulls with enormously powerful jaws and shoulder muscles and then train it to fight. I agree totally that you can train any dog to fight but a fighting chihuahua is useless unless you put up against another fighting chihuahua!

    Different species have different tendencies (in general- there are always exceptions) and certain dogs DO seem easier to train to certain applications. For instance collies are the easiest dog to train to herd sheep. German shepards seem best suited to being trained to bite and hold a fleeing criminals left arm. Border terriers are naturally suited to catching rats. For some reason pit bulls seem easier to train to fight to the death than other species. Its not the dogs fault but this disposition shouldn't be ignored either.

  • Comment number 8.

    Clinton and Obama

    Is it finally the end of the road for Hillary?
    -By the looks of things it is the end of the road for Hillary


    And have the Democrats chosen the right person?
    -Probably, but we will never know, until election day.

  • Comment number 9.

    Eat your Greens


    is that going to solve any of the bigger problems...

    _______________
    The Winners

    there are winners and losers following
    every crisis
    _______________

  • Comment number 10.

    Dogs
    The RSPCA says we have an increasing problem with dangerous dogs. Why?

    ---i think because the dogs are dangerous....

    because there owners are not able to teach them how to behave properly.

 

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